Citizens Prerogative Podcast Closed Caption Transcript
CPP S3 E52 P2 Right to A Minimum Standard of Living 

10:44:07 In times like these, being a citizen is a big job.
10:44:39 Thank you for joining us to celebrate the virtues of self-rule and debate the state of our Republic.
10:44:45 Welcome to the citizens prerogative. podcast This is the voice of your nerdy host, Michael Biscatelli, and we are inspired by a co-host whose passion for our Republic proceeds him everywhere.
10:44:55 He goes. Raymond Wong, Jr. Thank you.
10:44:59 Thank you, and I am raising the roof today, and I believe everyone should have the ability to raise a said roof.
10:45:10 This is Ab Episode number 52. We are in season 3, and the title of this episode.
10:45:18 This is the second plan plank to part 2 in our mini-series.
10:45:24 The title of this episode is right to a minimum standard of living.
10:45:34 As Ray so astutely mentioned about ceilings.
10:45:37 This episode is going to focus mostly on the floor, so that you have something to stand on when putting up your ceiling in your life.
10:45:48 The right to a minimum standard of living, the right to a minimum standard.
10:46:02 A living can't exist without a solid foundation and a fair set of rules.
10:46:10 Otherwise people can't flourish and when we talk about a minimum standard o living.
10:46:15 We're gonna go into detail we've got several bullets and then calls to action where we're going to paint exactly what is included in a minimum minimum standard of living.
10:46:29 Because if anyone's like me there's a whole slew of ideas that come rushing into my mind when I think about what it is the standard of living like that I have for my own self, either what I experienced growing up or the
10:46:43 one that I want to achieve by the time I retire, etc.
10:46:46 Etc. So I think think it's a really big idea But we're gonna boil it down to some very specific actionable bullets for us and our Republic to be able to help get this established for the betterment betterment
10:47:08 of all of us. So, without further ado we're gonna start discussing through these bullets, and they're all nested under this idea that everyone should have as equal rights access to the things that bring us a minimum standard of living
10:47:34 So let's start with one of the most obvious things and that is just under the law, or more to the point equal justice under the law, because some people get more justice than others.
10:47:49 Some companies more justice than people. so perhaps the courts one way we might be able to address this is for the courts to become more blinded to their biases.
10:48:04 Not just figuratively, but literally, I might be proposed.
10:48:10 Now we try and cut out any extraneous sensory data from decisions that carry the weight, or life, or death, or freedom or imprisonment.
10:48:20 For that matter, was a book I was reading recently. I believe it was talking with so strangers by Malcolm Gladwells.
10:48:28 One of his more recent books to be released. it was interesting for a lot of reasons.
10:48:37 But for this episode, specifically, there's an area in that book where they talk about judges and judges ability to discern how likely and offender is going to recommit crimes if they release them on bail.
10:48:52 So judges, you know, rotationally judges are signed up for these type of cases, and these cases are bail cases.
10:48:58 So somebody comes to the court and prosecution defense presents their position as to why this person should be retained in prison, because there are flight, risk, and Aren't going to show up at their court dates or can be trusted to be
10:49:09 left on their own cognizance they won't commit any additional crimes, and they'll show up to court when they're supposed to right.
10:49:16 So the judge, in the initial state of anything, has to make a decision.
10:49:19 Do I let this person walk free while the trial is ongoing?
10:49:23 Or do I lock them up in the meantime and if it's a violent offense, you know we're talking about.
10:49:28 If it's potentially violent, or if it's burning Matt off either case right.
10:49:34 These are you you're trying to look at this individual and make a determination?
10:49:38 Is to supposedly, I guess how well you trust them. Long story short, what the book finds is that people do a very bad job at this.
10:49:47 People especially do a very bad job. not just judges but in general, whenever we're having to interact with someone face to face to size them up to assess them to.
10:50:02 You know. Do we trust the their word, you know, and we try and read their body, language, and and things like that.
10:50:07 But what the data shows is that throws off everybody's decisions I mean from a heads of state that met Hitler versus didn't meet Hitler to judges.
10:50:20 You know, who are forced to make these decisions to about individuals and they carry with them the risk that murderer will can commit additional murders or mergers, you know, while they're released.
10:50:33 If they are a murder again. we're supposed to assume innocence at the front end of any case.
10:50:39 So, anyway, that's a kind of a long-winded way to just illustrate some of the biases we face just anecdotally in this one scenario, just for whether or not to hold people on
10:50:48 bail, and how poorly as humans we are judges of one another!
10:50:54 The reason why I throw out the idea of extraneous sensory data is because I think back to symphony orchestras, and the fact that they never hired anybody who wasn't like a white man for a really long time
10:51:05 until they simply had people audition behind curtains they couldn't tell if it was a female or an asian, or whatever you know, label you want to use to describe another human.
10:51:20 They couldn't tell and once they couldn't see this person all they could hear was their capability.
10:51:25 They could hear how beautiful their music was. Almost overnight.
10:51:29 You started seeing more diverse Philip you know the orchestras and and symphonies, and things of that nature.
10:51:36 And so that's why, i'm like Well, maybe we should just start taking people out of the courtroom.
10:51:41 Why, do you know the data suggests that judges make poorer decisions with that sensory data?
10:51:50 They would make better to decisions, meaning they would release safe people.
10:51:56 They would lock up dangerous people more often if they didn't have this sensory data where they're trying to do mental jujitsu and analyze the person in front of them.
10:52:05 When evolutionarily speaking, just as well we've we've evolved to discern truth.
10:52:11 This we've evolved to lie well as well and so we kind of lose for some reason.
10:52:19 Judges seem to think that they're really good at reading strangers, and they're not that's the evidence.
10:52:26 It would probably show more likely that it's based on the defendant's ability to pay for pay for suit to show up and look like what what that judge bias may be and I think it's interesting to me that the
10:52:42 classic statue. The classic imagery of the justice wing is the blind with the woman with the scales. Right?
10:52:51 I know that no is official but but it's it's that blind justice, right?
10:52:57 And and it makes sense to me that there needs to be that sort of applicability right?
10:53:02 The ideals are there. the ideals of justice are there it's just that man is flawed.
10:53:07 Humans are flawed, and we have to blind ourselves to remove the bias.
10:53:15 Thank you, Ray. So this is just one anecdotal scenario set of scenarios to illustrate the fact that you know, having equal justice on law is one of the first places that establishes a minimum standard of
10:53:30 living, and then from there everything gets better right. One of the things we propose is compassionate health care for all, regardless of a affordability.
10:53:45 People should not go bankrupt for health care, and we need to start with acts to healthful foods and the liberty to die with dignity.
10:53:54 Healthful foods are hard to come by, and the right to control your time.
10:53:59 To exit this world is only granted in a very small number, if not only one State in our Union, and there's nothing more compassionate than allowing people the free liberty and dignity to decide when to exit
10:54:19 because the quality of their life in the future is going to be worse than it is today, and the quality of life of those caring for them will probably be worse than it is today.
10:54:29 This is not promoting suicide it's a very different sense ofibility, and it has to do with end of life and dignity.
10:54:39 We're not going to belabor those points how health care is a whole episode in of itself.
10:54:44 But the idea here is that we should all have access to it and it shouldn't cause bankruptcy, whether that means it's single-pair and free for everyone or we put it in place other mechanisms in the system so that that's
10:54:57 the effect right? I mean. maybe health care still costs something.
10:55:01 But maybe we're giving people the money to pay for health care we'll cover that a little bit later, and even though these credit bureaus are not our friends by any means.
10:55:14 They have even said, maybe maybe reporting that it's even too evil for us.
10:55:22 So so they're pulling back for self-preservation, i'm i'm sure in my opinion.
10:55:28 But there are obviously seeing the negatives. and what how wrong it is to chase somebody after their medical debt that something that they most people did not choose to be in that situation.
10:55:43 I mean it's a really morbid bourbon burden right?
10:55:47 Oh, you didn't die Well, here's a bill all right moving on on that note.
10:55:58 How about equal pay for equal work. So like what else do we need to say it's pretty clear.
10:56:05 Yeah, I don't you know regardless of your shape size color ability parts that you're born with.
10:56:13 If you do a job you get paid for doing a job.
10:56:17 If you're performing, in a role you get paid for performing that role, if you're slightly better than your peer. well, then, that should be like evidence, and you get paid a little bit more right like it's very simple This
10:56:30 this is this treads into the area of common sense which is something I generally argue against as an argument, because it's not as common as people think. but really.
10:56:41 You feel it from a fairness perspective, you do the same job.
10:56:45 Why, wouldn't you get paid the same amount and if you're not satisfied with your pay.
10:56:49 Go get another job i'd like i'd like the conversation to shift with most people, because everyone comes in walks in the door obsessed about what other people are being compensated, and what other people are being paid and really you should
10:57:02 turn back, and when you're thinking about equal pay for equal work, don't even worry about other people.
10:57:10 Think about yourself, and what it takes to run your household what's the minimum you deserve.
10:57:14 What's the minimum you Feel that you require and your children require to run their households and to have that posterity to have that sense of stability or minimum standard of living so to secure your minor minimum standard living living
10:57:29 It's not about what others are getting paid it's about what you expect to be paid, and there's a median between all of that right, because some of you expect millions and millions of dollars, but others are completely happy with a
10:57:42 reasonable amount. and there it's actually somewhere in between all of that good point, Ray, and I mean honestly and add added area to this bullet would be, you know, a livable wage.
10:57:58 So you know, people Yeah, Dude, please take stock of your time, your limited time on Earth.
10:58:05 We all have limited time, and what is it worth to you If you're going to be giving away your time by the hour for money.
10:58:13 You need to really think about what you're 80 years or whatever on this earth is truly worth to you.
10:58:26 So one of the other areas where we feel like everybody has equal rights as to an environment that's conducive to life.
10:58:34 And and i'm talking about nature you know an idea we found related to information on biomimicry.
10:58:41 So when we say an environment conducive to life there's, this field of science called biomimicry, where we we're trying to leverage Nature's best designs for our problems, Nature Evolution has been solving problems
10:58:56 for eons longer than we have as a species so the knowledge instilled.
10:59:03 There is ancient, and it's very wise and so biomimicry is this case of science where we're reverse engineering nature and finding the best ways a lot of times leveraging ai to design as nature would do as nature would
10:59:17 do, and one of the the benefits. One of the most amazing side effects of designs by nature is that nature always leaves the environment more conducive to life.
10:59:29 Everything in nature is working with nature it's improving it's making healthier soils.
10:59:35 It's, you know, doing all of these things everything in the natural environment is more effective, but also leaves things in a better state.
10:59:44 Unlike a lot of our industrialized processes, which kind of leave things in a really poor state.
10:59:52 So studying nature to leverage its designs for our problems is a really smart way to go.
10:59:58 They definitely Nature yields products. it leaves the world more ready for life and to grow.
11:00:05 And we all deserve to have that environment. Our ancestors had it, and our posterity deserves it.
11:00:17 Another right is our right to liberty, and it requires us to demilitarize the homeland.
11:00:24 Both our citizens and our law enforcement and kind right.
11:00:29 Part of the reason why law enforcement wants to be equipped to the teeth is because citizens are getting equipped to the teeth.
11:00:35 It's an arms race in the country on our shores it's very scary.
11:00:43 The other thing we need to be concerned about is not just this arms race about who's got the biggest weapons.
11:00:48 The police are the bad guys, but we also need to be cognizant of keeping the likes of automated warfare off of our shores.
11:00:57 It needs to be. I mean in general we need to limit the expansion of automated warfare. even if we're not using drones in the United States.
11:01:07 We're only using them overseas because if we don't limit the proliferation of autated warfare.
11:01:16 Then the future may hold something like skynet. And for those of you who may not be Science fiction, Nerds skynet was the Mega Mega artificial intelligence program that took over the world in the future of
11:01:33 terminator. So all the Terminator machines that came back in time to kill humans key humans, you know that whole consciousness was called Skynet.
11:01:45 And we are it's just another area of science fiction that we're actually on the precipice of creating, and we probably don't even know it.
11:01:54 Maybe we do. I think it's hard to know what is going to happen with technology, especially because we've seen computers connected to each other that that invented their own language, because the in language we created wasn't good enough so
11:02:15 artificial intelligence has already spooked some of its developers to the point where they disconnected these 2 computers, because they no longer knew what the computers were saying to each other, because it they the computers thought this is
11:02:30 inefficient. let's continue to move forward and that's just an idea of the you it's it's a it's it's almost like the new virus right biological labs have very strict rules controls
11:02:41 and measures and regulation, etc. etc and we're probably dealing at that level.
11:02:46 Now where computers left unhinged could do some, some, some some terrible things, possibly.
11:02:55 Wow, you know, i'm always looking for the connections between technology and biology, because they are everywhere and that is great one.
11:03:04 I Hadn't really considered so you think about viruses you think about Coronavirus.
11:03:11 The reason why it's able to spread and kill and do all kinds of things is because of the environment is conducive to transmitting it. and because of the way we travel the way we live in close quarters.
11:03:21 We've created an environment conducive to Coronavirus wanting to live.
11:03:25 We are the means through which grown coronavirus lives We've created the same environment, although not biologically in technology, we have this global network of connected computers like we've never had in the past.
11:03:39 And they're operating at speeds and they're operating layers of software.
11:03:43 We know human has any possibility. of understanding how it's working It's all these separate little microorganisms in this technology environment that we've created. And now there's all these thinking programs better coming online that we
11:04:01 don't understand how they work it's important for everyone to understand when we talk about machine learning and ai these are black box technologies, meaning we can't see how they work inside it's just like cellular biology
11:04:13 before we had microscopes, and so we need to be cautious, because if there there is the capability, there is the possibility of something like skynet emerging and the environment for it is already here and it's privately,
11:04:30 owned. Yeah, I love the biggest risk right there's a lot of privately owned things going on. And so I think we have a like definitely have another another episode of I think of Creationism as a citizen does it mean Oh,
11:04:45 Amen. 2 more bullets, and we can take a break.
11:04:50 Additionally, we need to reserve prisons for only the most violent offenders among us.
11:04:55 It is really inhumane prison is a really inhumane way to reform people, to teach people to get people to reintegrate and participate in society.
11:05:09 Prison really does none of those things effectively, so it probably needs to get replaced with something that does do it effectively.
11:05:16 Supportive housing things of that nature we don't even go to that degree, because this is we're talking kind of more at the Federal level right now.
11:05:25 But the prisons, you know, on high have been used to put too many Americans behind bars and take away our liberties.
11:05:34 It's the system that has morphed and evolved through great, from the days of slavery.
11:05:50 The last bullet we have on here is a fair shot at full liberty.
11:05:53 It needs to be available to everyone who serves their time.
11:05:58 This is for people who go to prison and change their ways in support of the common good.
11:06:05 So today, before we eliminate prisons, we still have people coming out of prison.
11:06:10 They may have been on their best behavior. they may have made one mistake and got caught up with minimum sentencing, and they come out, and they want to live good lives, and they're fully capable of taking advantage of it those people remain
11:06:24 disenfranchised our system, and why would we expect them to want to fully participate in a system that won't recognize or restore their rights?
11:06:34 That is unfair, and it needs to end. So when it comes to liberty and it comes to a minimum standard of living, we all have the ability we need to have the ability to make mistakes and recover from them, and we need to be able
11:06:47 to operate in society with our free agency and when we're given those things we're able to return many times over the value to society to our communities when we're invested in as individuals.
11:07:05 We we give back. it is actually a part of our nature.
11:07:11 All people are asking for is what others have when they have that income when they have the ability.
11:07:19 All we're asking for all I think citizens are generally asking for is that minimum standard of living that gives people access to this floor or gives them access to the this system that gives in the access to the benefits that come when you don't have
11:07:36 to worry about where your food is coming from, and your transportation is secure, and the roof over your house is not a question, or the roof over your head is not a question mark.
11:07:52 How can any of us be free to pursue happiness without a minimum standard of living on that note?
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11:09:43 Us. Page. Thanks for your support, You know I I think about the the you know I won't go over you know the opening to the Constitution or the bill of rights.
11:10:04 If you will, because I think you do a really good reading and episode.
11:10:08 50, but I think that what we have to do is is really circle back to what is that mean to me?
11:10:20 Not. What does it mean to others like there's we're like really good at being selfish in a lot of ways as Americans I feel, except when it comes to looking at how the law and the governance and taxation and income and and all
11:10:37 of these things workers rights we're really concerned about others or really we should just look at ourselves and say what's important for me.
11:10:47 And that's what I think everyone should have and why does that not?
11:10:51 Why is that not the conversation and that's why i'd say that's what we're leaning towards.
11:10:56 And when you read components of the constitution, or when you read the preamble, or whatever you should be, applying it to yourself, not others.
11:11:10 Yeah, I think that's a great call-out ray
11:11:16 How can your relationship with life be improved through some of these mechanisms, because it comes back to investing in each of us to make the nation successful?
11:11:27 It's not about taking away something from someone else it's about receiving what we deserve as humans.
11:11:41 That's it. I guess I struggle with the idea that I didn't have that.
11:11:46 So they shouldn't right people say I I struggled I really struggle.
11:11:50 I crawled, and I climbed and I lost a nail, and I did it, and others should do that as well, and I don't.
11:11:58 That shows a lack of empathy, and frankly a cognitive dissidence.
11:12:03 From what you've really gone through and and what others deserve, because in the bottom line is that our job is to lift the floor to to create that more perfect union means that every child that's born in this nation experiences something better than before
11:12:23 it's a it's a strange ideal I know that's a child that you don't know, and you will never interact with because you'll be dead is gonna have a better life than you But that.
11:12:37 Is called being a good citizen, and I didn't even mean you know that's a citizen.
11:12:42 Do good, in my opinion, and posterity is key. I mean, I think, the mind of most parents.
11:12:51 Maybe not all parents. They would want better life for their children, or at least less adversity.
11:13:00 So we forget that there's 2 sides to the coin right? I mean, we always look at people and we think, oh, what is what advantage did they? have?
11:13:09 And in some cases they did. But I think what we miss a lot of times, too, and I find myself making.
11:13:15 The point is, what disadvantages did that person not face?
11:13:20 What we forget is that there is there's this whole bucket of disadvantagedness, that many of us won't ever even have an awareness of.
11:13:31 We you know, and so that's why we have to be so cautious when we look to others, or we compare to others when when it's our life, we we should be measuring ourselves by our own standards by our own
11:13:41 needs, wants, and and what fulfills us our very nature.
11:13:47 People are born without limb. sometimes right I mean not everybody's even born with the same physical capabilities.
11:13:58 It doesn't make them any less human it doesn't make them any less deserving.
11:14:01 But but they're going to face a very different set of adversities.
11:14:05 Somebody born with a certain shape of eye or color, of skin, or etc.
11:14:10 Etc. is going to experience headwinds in a different way from others, and for any of us to attempt to look across to another, assume they had it better or worse, or even to know something about that person, and make the decision that it
11:14:29 was better or worse, is not valuable and it's inappropriate.
11:14:34 It doesn't serve you well, it doesn't Serve them Well, it doesn't move us in any direction.
11:14:39 What we need to look at things as collectively and say, You know what some people in our society are being left homeless.
11:14:45 Not due to drug addition, not due to this, not due to that because of other circumstances, that and of itself.
11:14:50 You look at that one sliver, and you say, as a society, do we find that that is acceptable, that there is no floor.
11:14:57 You can fall below the floor. That is not acceptable that is not fair or right, and we have the capacity to build that floor.
11:15:08 So that's what we asked. We ask it says what is the worst you would want to face in your own life.
11:15:14 Let's build the floor around that for all of us let us all not have to face, for we don't want to face that we can avoid together right as a community.
11:15:26 They're just advantages some disadvantages some people are never gonna face or understand, and there are advantages out there that some of us don't even know about that.
11:15:33 People are able to take it, you know, to use to their betterment.
11:15:38 So I totally agree right. Looking at other people anecdotally, is the last thing any of us needs to do.
11:15:50 I tried to look back at the last episode as well, because we were really hard on.
11:15:56 You know this idea that people are going to pass the value of their stocks.
11:16:02 Their companies, deferred compensations whatever to their their errors.
11:16:06 But this system breeds fear, so the fear of being poor right?
11:16:11 So how can they protect their children from what they had to go through?
11:16:14 Which is strange to me, because that's the ideal of the I think the call to actions we have is to take away the fear.
11:16:24 Remove that underlying stress. So you only have to deal with the stress of frankly everything.
11:16:30 Day-to-day life traffic, bullying, corporate bowling, whatever you know, professional bullying.
11:16:37 But if we just had the stress of everything else it's also keeping your entire about you, your entire financial and that floor right?
11:16:48 You're the only person holding that floor unless you have a household. You're lucky enough to have a nest egg.
11:16:54 So how do we get rid of this fear and I think that's where we're going?
11:16:59 Thank you, Ray. Yeah, that horarding, that fear, that that instills that greed and that hoarding mentality.
11:17:08 And then and then they gift all this money to their posterity.
11:17:12 But the posterity didn't develop that nest egg so they don't know what rigor it takes to build it, and and it all goes to pot.
11:17:20 So what we need to do is give everybody that opportunity to succeed within their lifetimes, and not reach a hand down from their ancestors.
11:17:30 They we should have from our ancestors, and we should give to our posterity a system for all of us.
11:17:37 That works for everyone in a fair way. So with that we move into calls to action, a minimum standard of living with liberty and dignity can be achieved for us all.
11:17:52 Using a very simple mechanism You've heard us talk about it before a universal basic income.
11:18:00 We call it the national floor. it's a floor for people and their main streets and Wall Street and our government.
11:18:11 We spend most of the time here focused on citizens, but as an extension of citizens is everything that comes from it.
11:18:19 And when we talk about establishing a floor and giving people universal basic income, it doesn't just help people.
11:18:27 It helps the whole system. Like I said, Main Street, Wall Street.
11:18:31 In our government. it provides a basic income where no income exists for all those living under the jurisdiction of our laws.
11:18:40 Taxation economy. Keep in mind people who aren't citizens still pay taxes, and they're still subject to our laws.
11:18:49 They can still make lawsuits in court or go to jail There's a cost that they take that they they have access to by physically being under the jurisdiction and they're paying into it and their partnership So
11:19:08 This is going to be eventually one of the sticking points when we get into the nitty gritty of a universal basic income.
11:19:11 But this is one of the areas where I don't necessarily see a heartline with citizens.
11:19:18 I kind of look at people participating in their communities, and I see citizenship is its own kind of path or set of actions outside of taxation. You pay taxes.
11:19:32 You should have the benefit of those taxes i'm sorry That's what's fair, And if we aren't going to give non-citizens those benefits then we shouldn't be taking their money as tax dollars which I
11:19:44 think, is more fraught it's more difficult to keep people excluded than to let them in.
11:19:51 There's plenty of other benefits to citizenship So the last bullet on this universal basic income the Add-on effect of these direct payments to people will generate a trickle up.
11:20:07 We've all heard about trickle down economics which doesn't work, but we know for a fact that when you put money in people's pockets they spend it a good portion of it, anyway.
11:20:17 And so you generate this trickle upward effect that feeds a basic self-sustaining level of economic revenues for all businesses and for the government.
11:20:28 Excuse me, you know the government taxes incomes they wouldn't tax the universal basic income.
11:20:36 But they're taxing the income of the businesses whose revenue is bolstered by people spending this basic income.
11:20:44 It also provides an opportunity potentially for savings for those who are employed well enough tags it the program.
11:20:51 So we we treat this as a floor, we call it a floor, because as you climb up above the floor to another level, you will stop receiving the basic income.
11:21:02 Once you're able to replace the basic income maybe not nets entirely.
11:21:07 Maybe it's a little bit over. time the details will get worked out.
11:21:14 But the point is this: Nobody should be poor to the degree that their homeless, and if people are sick they should be able to get better.
11:21:23 If people go to prison, they should be able to atone for their sins.
11:21:26 All of this needs to be true, because all of it is fair it's fundamentally fair.
11:21:35 I think that if we want an economy that allows more growth more creative, we've shown that art has value, then why not let creators be.
11:21:50 We have a serious problem with volunteering not because people don't want to volunteer or give their time, because they're working.
11:21:58 They have no time to give, so there's not always going to be fraud on the end of this direct payment, like everyone thinks there's not always going to be a loss in the end of the day.
11:22:15 Everyone puts their money into the same system to get the food to get the transportation systems to participate in the legal system.
11:22:24 We all. we all painted that same core system, so when it comes down to it direct payments.
11:22:31 If you're obsessed about fraud again. You're focused on the wrong things, Think about what you would do with it, and think about what to do for your family Don't think about what others are going to do about it.
11:22:41 Think about what it'll do for your family will help you sleep at night will help you feel better sending your kid on to live their life in the big city.
11:22:50 Whatever's going on in your life focus on that I love it and as bankers we know that no for the most part there hasn't been any amount of fraud that's shut down any product that's viable
11:23:07 right in even in the private industry today. fraud is a fact.
11:23:11 It is cost of doing business, it's not something that's ever been eliminated, and it never will be. And the reason why exists is because of these disparities in part and parcel right who wants to legitimately
11:23:22 participate in a system where the wealthy can get wealthy and stay wealthy for ever.
11:23:26 They never face the downside of their poor decisions once they've achieved enough wealth.
11:23:31 Yeah, that would make anyone want to exit the system stage left and commit fraud instead of joining the likes of all of these legalally corrupt, fraudulent people.
11:23:41 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you talking about? You know our economy or American Ford and policy right now?
11:23:49 Oh, okay, you're right. Let me move on So this concept of a universal basic income is going to require us to fundamentally re-examine ourselves, and perhaps our longest-tel beliefs, including around fraud
11:24:07 which is something that will get managed. It has to be managed. it's never been a reason not to do something. only our lack of openness to imagine.
11:24:19 If solutions can hold us back, we should have the liberty to choose how and when we participate in the economy, because our life's purpose and the pursuit of happiness must take priority again, participating in the economy should be something
11:24:34 we learn and develop skills to do on our own accord. It should not be something.
11:24:41 We are enslaved to do for survival in dream of a future where we don't have unemployed right.
11:24:52 We have creators, we have capitalists, and we mutually joke and and appreciate each other, because capitalists should understand.
11:25:02 We understand what creators do. True, intelligent capitalists understand what creators do for the economy.
11:25:09 Right. So I think that it is it is very interesting to One day at least, if I pass that's maybe one mission we can get through.
11:25:18 This whole effort is that we start referring to people instead of employed as creators.
11:25:27 In the last little note we'll leave you with this seed for thoughts.
11:25:32 Did you know that poor financial health can cause poor physical and mental health?
11:25:39 I mean when I say that out loud, Everyone, I imagine, will shake their head.
11:25:42 Because yeah, who I mean, you think about the stress finances can cause.
11:25:50 But science is literally figured out, and can demonstrate that this is very, very true.
11:26:01 When humans are preoccupied you, we all have limited time on Earth.
11:26:08 In that time we have just hours and minutes to make decisions about our lives.
11:26:12 What we find is long story short, when people are poor when people don't have enough.
11:26:21 It preoccupies time and energy in their mind when they have to like the difference between $500 for getting breaks repaired, or something on their vehicle.
11:26:33 Now they have to make the decisions. What am I going to cut out of my budget?
11:26:36 Is it food? Is it the utilities this month? Are we gonna do this?
11:26:39 Are we gonna do that? The amount of decision-making that has to happen for all these transactions on a daily basis is not something.
11:26:50 Anybody who has more than enough is faced with ever. So you think about the mental tax on your time in life.
11:26:58 Consider the consider how much time you think about where to put your limited dollars. and remember people who don't have limited dollars spend time on such notions.
11:27:12 You think about your 80 years in there 80 years? How much of your 80 years are preoccupied with?
11:27:19 What am I gonna do to make ends meet this month?
11:27:22 Something. Some of these people have never faced in their entire lives They're free to use their mental energy on whatever they want.
11:27:30 That's not fair that's not and but let's bring the let's bring the car home.
11:27:38 Here, and you know one thing i'm thinking about is the the classic hit and run there's nothing more offensive or a breach of our citizenship interaction, right when someone hits you crashes into you and then
11:27:50 flees. but we have to think about in that moment is you're offended by the mere transaction that they didn't pull over for the formalities, but that person probably could couldn't even afford it like they had no way.
11:28:04 In it would have brought their entire life to shambles.
11:28:06 That accident, that ticket, that matter would have brought them to the brink, or even destroyed their family, and it became desperation.
11:28:16 And I think, as people, we really have to think of other people in compassionate moments like that.
11:28:20 And say maybe they needed it, and unfortunately, that's the problem with the system is, we're trying to create a system where we know they didn't need it, because the system is equitable the system is balanced Oh, that's a
11:28:35 lovely point, and it makes me remember a conversation we had some time ago.
11:28:43 It was that argument like from a rich person's perspective why am I gonna pay more tax.
11:28:51 So that that homeless or poor person, and less homeless, is not homeless or less poor.
11:28:57 The future, and my argument back to them is for your safety, because you rich person when you live wealthy and it's obvious.
11:29:07 And there are poor people all around you you're safe is in jeopardy.
11:29:12 Those poor people at some point are gonna look at your house and they're gonna look at you and they're gonna be like there's way more about us than you we're gonna come get our up and comeins we're gonna
11:29:22 go raise your refrigerator because we're hungry We're gonna go steal your weapons because we're tired of being shot at with them.
11:29:29 And this is a real situation. Income Inequality in this country has gotten so dramatic that rich people are looking around in fear, and they should be afraid.
11:29:39 I think about San Francisco right you've got homeless people, mere blocks away from tens of millions of dollars of states, and there's no security guards.
11:29:50 There's really no fences. it's amazing it's amazing that these people feel so safe in an economy where they've taken so much from so many.
11:30:01 Now, if you know everyone has their fair share everybody has enough to eat nobody's feeling This unfairness.
11:30:09 This weight. I imagine we will see thefts go down.
11:30:14 We will see robberies go down like you said the hit and rung situation like if people aren't motivated by fear because they don't have enough things will change rich people have a vested interest in everyone having enough so
11:30:29 nobody's coming after their things that's it i'll leave it at that.
11:30:39 I really think that up I appreciate that this episode a lot because it's trying to focus on what is something we may never benefit on these these type of episodes.
11:30:54 I appreciate, because I don't see it happening in our lives lifetimes.
11:30:57 If it does amazing. But I do think that it's gonna take a little bit longer that unfortunately more suffering, or possibly a World War you, know because if in our lifetime we may see the replacement, income, if a full-on war is
11:31:13 launched, which unfortunately, we we are on the breath of maybe.
11:31:20 Yeah, we're one bombing away from world war 3 She all right.
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