Citizens Prerogative Podcast Closed Caption Transcript
S3 E58 Bear Arms for Militias Sake

10:44:41 In times like these. Being a citizen is a big job.
10:44:44 Thank you for joining us to celebrate the virtues of self-rule and debate the state of our Republic.
10:44:50 Welcome to the citizens prerogative podcast This is the voice of your nerdy host, Michael Piscatelli, and we are inspired by a co-host who's passion for our republic precedes him everywhere.
10:45:00 He goes. Raymond Wong, Jr. Thank you, thank you.
10:45:02 And you know I almost wore a tank top today, so I could have bear arms.
10:45:08 This is Episode Number 58. We are in season 3, and the title of this episode is Bear on for malicious sake, not malicious sake.
10:45:23 Militia plural sake. So that gives you any indication we're actually gonna be spending today's time talking about the second amendment.
10:45:32 So so much fun. so exciting let's just kick it off with reading the second amendment, because it's only 27 words.
10:45:43 It's one of the shorter amendments that we have and it comes right off the heels of the first amendment which is all of our freedoms speech.
10:45:51 Religion. Da da da da. The second amendment reads a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, and the right of the people to keep in bear arms, shall not be infringed
10:46:14 What's interesting is, we see this couple episodes ago.
10:46:19 We talked about the court and some of its extremities.
10:46:23 One of the things that it tends to do what I associate, you know I get so excited about Cathol, cause I grew up Catholic, so I know it intimately well, but I am familiar with all the other traditions.
10:46:37 But what's what's interesting in that case is that the there's this term we call cafeteria Captain Catholic, or I imagine there's cafeteria terminology for all the different
10:46:50 denominations. but it basically means you just skim and you pick and choose what you want from the Bible or from any religious text.
10:46:57 So you're like you you want to make a point you Go through the Bible, and you find the quote that makes your point, because every point is made in the Bible doesn't matter right or wrong.
10:47:06 Left or right, up or down, so we're starting to see our Religious Supreme Court.
10:47:11 Very easily, happily doing the same thing. they love picking up one part of an amendment, and ignoring the rest of it.
10:47:20 They don't take all of, the words these are originalists they want to read the words, but they only want to read the words that they agree with, or they care about, or prove the point.
10:47:29 Or the judgment as a as a justice that they wanna make.
10:47:34 So this court tends to focus on and you'll hear people who lead into this ideology that they're they lean into this last half.
10:47:43 Keep in bear arms shall not be infringed. but what they miss is the whole purpose.
10:47:49 The whole reason we have arms and and why why the right for us to have those arms shouldn't be infringed, and it's for the security of our free State foremost, so we've really pushed into property right like there's this obsession with
10:48:10 Oh, my property, my you are not a free state Okay, you you you exist as a citizen, a member of this State that we all commonly together, and that's why regulation makes sense.
10:48:24 That's why it absolutely to me makes complete sense that when you read out the entire wording, which by the way the founders were extremely methodical about every single word chosen, and I think it's quite clear and it's and there's a reason
10:48:41 why the right is not quoting the entire, the entire amendment, because it is not good news for them.
10:48:51 It is not good news for their argument that we should allow people to run rampant and shoot randomly in the street at will, you know, having a gun to protect your building alone does nothing to secure the State and and to that historically
10:49:09 speaking, you see, the people that are most animated about collecting and showing their guns are the same people historically, that have done.
10:49:15 Mob violence in our country. Oh, didn't we just see that on January sixth.
10:49:25 Alright. So these original point of the amendment was about supporting a well regulated militia in the mindset of the times when it was written, our right to keep in bear arms is protected under law, so that, we as citizens
10:49:38 are prepared for conscription, we are prepared to stand up and defend our colonies, our nation, our States, from the likes of all the other imperial powers who want to take us back, or put us under their thumb or whatever is going
10:49:54 on like you have to remember. we just gained our independence not too long ago, when all of this was written.
10:50:00 This is the third version of the Constitution, right? native American invasion, too.
10:50:07 Never mind, never mind the people coming in from the coastline.
10:50:09 Right. We had an entire nation. and again we were the invaders, and in all technicality.
10:50:17 But we had a war, active, ongoing internal war with the native American totally.
10:50:22 We can't forget that we were actively disputing and acquiring this territory, as if it was the Russians taking over Ukraine.
10:50:32 Unfortunately, mostly we're acquiring and then disputing you know, after acquiring the people's right to be on that land after we acquired it on topic.
10:50:48 Yes, we needed guns. We needed to defend the State in Boston Circus.
10:50:54 1788. Okay. So this constitution was ratified in 1789 in Boston Circus, 1788.
10:51:01 The militia was already called the National Guard. I think that should sound familiar to most people.
10:51:07 We have a National Guard. it's the coast guard and and then the National Guard is on land, and then the military is something separate, although the military directs the National Guard.
10:51:17 It belongs to each State, etc. so it has been established, or it was established in 1,636 for the protection of the colony in Boston, and it's now fixture
10:51:30 in all 50 States, you may find that they are generally well regulated.
10:51:37 So when we use the word militia, when the board militia is used in the Constitution, it's not some generic ephemeral thing that has no definition or is nebulous in any. way.
10:51:48 No, we had militias up until that point. It was a clearly defined, articulated, and understood thing, and in this case it was the National Guard in Boston.
10:51:58 As an example. So, just in your mindset, we already had the National Guard.
10:52:01 This is what we're talking about. The right for citizens to buy and hold weapons for private purposes, like self defense, was read into the Constitution by the courts.
10:52:17 After the passing of the fourteenth amendment the availability of military grade weapons for private use would not have been in the state's interest.
10:52:28 After all, the idea of mob rule was a constant concern, and it was not common for our for phone to own their own cannons.
10:52:38 These arms were intended to be held for the militia, which were made up of the people
10:52:46 No farmers had canons, and that's what we have now, with these ar fifteens, it's equivalent of a cannon back in that day, in my opinion, so at this moment, in our history circa 20
10:53:00 22, the profit motive has been allowed to run a month run rampant, and the lobbies that stood the profit.
10:53:06 The most have done so. According Cbs news gunmakers tallied a 1 billion dollars in revenue over the last 10 years, just from Ar.
10:53:13 15 sales to citizens, 1 billion dollars on air, 15 sales to citizens.
10:53:20 Okay, self-defense against other people who have ar fifteens.
10:53:25 Well, if everybody doesn't have an ir 15 you're good to go sending about the same amount of money on average, to the healthcare industry.
10:53:34 So it's a 1 billion over 10 years. for ar fifteens They send about the same amount on average, to healthcare out of citizens pockets for each mass shooting event.
10:53:45 It's a morbid relationship so they earn a 1 billion dollars by saying selling ar fifteens.
10:53:52 The American citizens spend a 1 billion dollars taken care of the aftermath of these mass shootings, or cleaning up the capital after people run it down.
10:54:04 But ours is the only country in the world with more civilian own firearms than there are people alive to hold them, which means their stockpiles.
10:54:16 There are stockpiles in a lot of places and i'm Sure they're not well regulated by militia, or if they are by militia, it's not by American citizens.
10:54:25 Militia. it's not the national guard 120 guns for every 100 citizens, according to Bloomberg.
10:54:36 So for every 100 of us there's a 120 guns out there.
10:54:41 How I mean you can only hold 2 guns at the same time.
10:54:43 Yemen on this list of countries? How many, how many countries for P, or how many guns for people?
10:54:50 Yemen is the only one that follows us. so we have 120 guns for 100 people.
10:54:55 They have 52 guns for 100 people. They're the next Canada in the North has 34.7.
10:55:05 France and Germany both had 19.6 so that's 20 guns per 100 people.
10:55:10 Countries like Japan, Indonesia, the number goes down to west than one We'll talk about.
10:55:16 Why coming up soon? Well, i'm not gonna i'm not gonna shy away from the idea that Japan has a little bit of an authoritarian like lineage.
10:55:27 This is Yeah, this is a country where you had to have papers to cross the nation.
10:55:32 Okay, like early, early ancient on, you had to have papers to travel.
10:55:37 So this is. It was a pretty tightly run state no surprise they've got high gun control to this day.
10:55:42 There's still a very conformance culture and It makes her very clean, Tokyo, and very orderly subways busy but orderly on that note.
10:55:56 Let's go ahead and take a break
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10:57:24 Thanks for your support. You know I going back to what you said about
10:57:33 This idea that the well regulated militia and Boston.
10:57:37 It kind of got me thinking, which is is always interesting the show always gets me thinking very aggressively, because I think I want to not say anything stupid, so my brain is in a higher plane of thinking than it normally, is when i'm with
10:57:50 you, but it's right now. it's I wonder if the founding fathers got this thing wrong, right, because, if you see it's well regulated militia, So one thing we know historically is that every State had their
10:58:02 militia, basically, right with Boston was well organized.
10:58:06 They were the most reputable. but I think every State had rag, tag, militias, and in a sense I I think their main focus.
10:58:12 From what i'm reading into it is that they wanted to just make sure that each State didn't have to give up their militias, so they could maintain their individual statehood, because the 13 colonies were very some were very reluctant doing
10:58:28 this right? They weren't sure it was gonna work they they thought there would be failure, and frankly, some were more wealthy than others.
10:58:35 Some had the money to pay for larger militaries, right?
10:58:39 So there was different economic situations going on, and I think this verbiage was accidentally trickled down to the citizenship on large base.
10:58:49 But I think it was really just those powerful landowners who could afford weapons, saying, saying, Okay, okay, okay, we'll join in a union.
10:58:58 But we can't give up our military for the security of each state it's very clear. it seems very clear by what they were forming as as a new system of government that's awesome perspective, because they were they were all their own independent States
10:59:15 they had their own freedom. they could make their own choices now.
10:59:18 As soon as we sign this document, we're giving away some of that autonomy and they were very reticent to do that.
10:59:26 We know why. but you're right leading up to that the colonies always had to defend themselves to the point you made earlier, So they've always, you know they've always armed themselves, and and had the idea of
10:59:40 militia like you, said Boston just ended up being a little more.
10:59:42 Well regulated. It was ahead of the curve, probably for that time
10:59:50 Very interesting. I have to leave that thought and move on to our call to action.
10:59:58 So the call to action. we're gonna be laying out here some statistics, but the whole point of this is to to paint the picture that there is a light at the end of this tunnel.
11:00:08 We do not need to live under this repressive regime of gun violence.
11:00:17 Which you know, concert it's I mean it's a concerted effort against so many things including civilization as a whole. I mean, I I keep thinking that people are gonna stop putting their kids in public schools because they're afraid of
11:00:28 shootings and public schooling is going to go away and everybody's just gonna get, you know, they're gonna pull together their own resources and create their own little private schools.
11:00:36 And I, who knows what the outcome of these situations, how far down the rabbit hole they can go, which is why it's important for us to recognize it as soon as possible, and try and steer this ship in the right direction
11:00:48 So let's talk about a few countries that have had to grab this bowl by the horns, so to speak, and get it dealt with.
11:00:57 I'm gonna start with Australia. They don't with their gun risk exposure after a massacre in 1996 at Port Arthur.
11:01:06 23 people were wounded and 35 were killed. they're all Australians.
11:01:11 Some some more international tour. It was a tourist destination.
11:01:13 So people from all over Australia were murdered in that 35.
11:01:17 So it really touched everyone in the country it wasn't just like Queensland or something. So it's a it's a kind of a unique scenario because for us it's pockets right we're getting killed by
11:01:26 a 1,000 cuts or bullets slowly. In Australia they had one mass event, and it just created a wave of movement where they were able to pass legislation.
11:01:37 They banned semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.
11:01:40 They mandated gun registration. They required a reason to buy a gun, and they established rules for supporting.
11:01:46 So excuse me for storing guns, so people at home had to have gun lockers.
11:01:50 The results, you know. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of data, because this is kind of a 1 point in time time.
11:01:57 But there was a study, and in that study we saw 65% decrease in gun suicides.
11:02:03 After one decade, for instance, also a 59% decrease in gun homicides.
11:02:08 In the same year, and there's only been one mass shooting since 26 years later.
11:02:15 It's been 26 years since They put these legislation controls in place and there's only been one mass shooting in that window very effective.
11:02:25 It was very difficult, though the gun long be in Australia was very strong, and they were not.
11:02:31 They were almost not successful in this, because it was wildly unpopular, which is the same situation that we're in.
11:02:39 Now it's it. Australia is a very interesting case because it's very similar to the conditions we're experiencing except for our outrage being iolated to community by community the suicide part of that statistic is
11:02:55 notable. because we know that preventing access to a method of suicide is an effective key to prevention.
11:03:05 So this is in line with a market decline in suicide by oven.
11:03:09 When the British switched from full gas to lessly full natural gas suicides dropped in half after the switch in 1970.
11:03:20 I don't know if I I don't recall if I've talked about this on the podcast in the past.
11:03:24 But The coal gas up until 1,970 people would use in England was cheap and dirty. so housewives all they had to do is stick their head in the oven after a few minutes they would pass away
11:03:33 painlessly, silently, effortlessly. This gas would just kill you.
11:03:39 So suicides were rampant and as soon as They changed the gas over, and it didn't kill people anymore.
11:03:44 Those suicide stopped. They didn't switch the guns in switch to knives.
11:03:49 They didn't switch to pills they just stopped suicide is a very specific thing.
11:03:54 It's a point in time. it's an opportunity and a time of weakness, and that 60 what was it 65% decrease in suicide in one decade is notable last thing on that is Cdc
11:04:10 published a report concluding no surprise that ready availability of firearms is associated with an increased risk of suicide in the home period.
11:04:21 Let's move on to the swiss I don't know if everybody's aware I was not aware but they love their guns.
11:04:28 They love them, and they seem to have a healthy relationship with them.
11:04:34 Obviously, Switzerland is a whole other country, with a whole different set of things, but they speak a lot of languages are very diverse.
11:04:37 They straddle a lot of countries in Europe. they still love their guns.
11:04:42 They have the largest annual marksmanship competition in the world.
11:04:45 Citizens are conscripted for 2 years of training and service in their military, which is comprised of local State militias.
11:04:53 Their military issued firearm is sent home with them minus ammo, which requires a permit.
11:04:58 Everybody gets trained, everybody. Everybody goes home with a standard issue weapon on.
11:05:03 They are 15, and then you have to go. Get your permit.
11:05:07 If you want ammunition for that gun gun. homicide rates are 20 times lower than the United States.
11:05:15 They have controls like background checks, automatic weapons ban, and they require purchases to be registered.
11:05:21 They love their guns, and they get to have them within reason.
11:05:26 This is one we've mentioned in the past though we have recognized, although although we didn't have the details, and I can say i'm good, great job, Mike, for going back and getting us the finer details.
11:05:37 But I know on a previous show we have mentioned the swiss as a model.
11:05:41 We've mentioned them as a people that know what they're doing, and these people are awesome.
11:05:45 I mean you want to talk about anything that's really really Butch, talk about growing blowing up your own bridges and such.
11:05:51 They've got some really interesting history. there and I just think that when you really pill back America is not the most patriotic nation in the world.
11:06:01 In my opinion you're going to blow up your own bridges it's pretty intense.
11:06:06 Yeah, we need to get. We need to rally behind the idea of this experiment.
11:06:12 Again alright Couple more points here we're still we're doing relatively good on time.
11:06:21 Video games. We love to hear that and we don't love to hear that.
11:06:24 But we do hear a lot of it. I should say video games are not a factor.
11:06:29 Okay, people will talk about. Oh, this video game violence that's why kids are shooting up schools.
11:06:36 There's no evidence for that Yeah The action here is to move on from this red herring.
11:06:40 The reason why we call it up is a call to action is because it is a red hearing.
11:06:43 Video games are not. The problem. evidence shows the issue is directly related to the availability and access to guns.
11:06:51 That is the data we're gonna use Japan as an example here.
11:06:56 Japanese are only out spent on video game sales by the Us.
11:06:59 And China. Now China has way. more people than we do us has more disposable income, I suppose, of the care to dispose the income on games. I'm not sure.
11:07:09 But anyway, they're up there with us they do not allow private gun ownership.
11:07:14 The law states essentially that no person shall possess a firearm.
11:07:17 They do make exceptions. they're. few and They operate under an intrusive bureaucratic regime.
11:07:24 As a result they only have 0 point 3 firearms per 100 people, less than a third of a fire per 100 people.
11:07:33 They've only had 4 gun deaths in 2020 for a 125 million people.
11:07:37 The Us. and the same time had 45,222 gun.
11:07:41 Deaths. I didn't keep the note in here but anybody was paying attention to the news.
11:07:47 Abi was recently assassinated in Japan, and that was a homemade firearm person had to make that gun at home
11:07:59 As citizens. It is our prerogative to elect representatives that have the backbone to enact such legislation.
11:08:06 If we, as we've discussed here well he need to make up for lost time, we should consider going even further than what we've seen, we should increase the minimum age for ownership to 21 we should require periodic mental health
11:08:19 evaluations, where changes in status could affect access to guns, especially because we don't provide health care to all of our citizens.
11:08:26 So how are we to know anything about their health if we don't assess it?
11:08:32 And since children potentially have access to these weapons at home, as we've seen time and time and mass shooting again, we should invest in their mental health, care and monitoring for our common good I mean everything else.
11:08:46 We talked about weapons, lockers, bands take it take it we'll take it wholeheartedly.
11:08:51 We're adding on you know 21 mental health etcetera, because in our country we have a keen need for that to alleviate this problem
11:09:11 And on that note that's gonna round out our call to action. I mean, I think you heard it loud and clear it's kind of back to voting.
11:09:17 But more importantly, how do you know who to vote for?
11:09:20 Only if you know what they should be supporting what's in all of our best interests, especially each of us as citizens.
11:09:28 And so that's why we bring home some of these components around gun control, and how important it is, and no matter what amount of gun control we put into place short of amending the constitution.
11:09:39 The second amendment isn't going anywhere everything is just fear so much fear.
11:09:48 I think if you're trying to decide you know who's the right person to vote for.
11:09:53 I I believe that it's very easy to see right if if it if the ads cause they're everywhere, you know, try not to tune them out like listen to them just a bit right.
11:10:02 And what do they have in their ads? Is their substance?
11:10:06 Are they picking up a gun and shooting it so I guarantee if they're wasting time picking up a gun and shooting it.
11:10:13 There's no war on the second amendment actually there's nothing going on right now.
11:10:20 What's happening is normal in the evolution of how people want to live.
11:10:24 So people they're just trying to distract you so saying hey?
11:10:28 I'm trying to trigger you no no pot intended but they're trying to trigger you and say, Hey, you vote for me off of this one tiny emotion.
11:10:40 They're playing off of something that's core to your being, and you should you should be cognizant of that manipulation and push back.
11:10:47 You, you should be cognizant of that manipulation and say for yourself, Hey, You're wasting all this money trying to convey what message to me?
11:10:56 What am I supposed supposed to take away from that? I already know. Guns? Yeah.
11:11:00 Great you you've made that clear? 25 you spent millions of dollars, and the only thing you have to say is, I am pro guns.
11:11:09 Where is the substance? What's going to change material and materially in your life?
11:11:14 Is what you have to look for in these ads and it's in there.
11:11:17 It is in there. I I I tune them out I tend to but I I think that during this time more than ever it matters what people are saying 100%, and we've not made this point a lot.
11:11:32 But who none of us should be hung up on perfect and none of us should be hung up on one issue.
11:11:38 And I know there's a lot of single issue voters out there. But that's i'm going to insult some people, but it's pretty lazy life is not only consisting of one factor no one's decision should consist of only one
11:11:51 factor that's entirely on reasonable. I might say have some have you're worth it, and i'd say this a lot to people like you deserve your voice.
11:12:04 You do matter like I know that the system has been designed to kind of tell you like, Oh, you just you're in your place.
11:12:15 Live it and and kind of die and I don't think that's the future.
11:12:16 I think that every citizen, every breath, every individual breathing individual matters, and should be protected.
11:12:24 That's believe that to my core
11:12:33 On that. No, I think we're gonna call it a wrap we have been your host.
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